.Normal double spirals
Hypothesis: Could be that the course of the Phaeton was depicted on the ceramic of the Dorian and Philistine after arriving Greece around 1000 BC
a
b
c
Atlantis in its roots a neolithic *Sparta* in the
Bronce Age North ?
The following considerations are based on the assumption
1.) Double spirals are symbols of the annual sun course.
2.) The Dark Ages are caused by a cosmic catastrophy.
The Fimbulwinter in the EDDA forcing the Northerners / Dorian to leave their
.Normal double spirals
Hypothesis: Could be that the course of the Phaeton was depicted on the ceramic of the Dorian and Philistine after arriving Greece around 1000 BC
a) Rock carving. Oestergotland. Bronze Age
b) Ionic capital 500 b.
c) *Ionic column* in the Crypt of Zeitz. North Germany (10th century)
These *Ionic* double spirals are numerously proven in the Bronce Age of Central and Northern Europe and Georgia
If it is true that spirals are symbols of the normal annual sun course then logically
that ´defect´ spirals may point to an ´unnormal´ sun course.
´Defect Ionic double spirals´
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a,b ) Defect spirals of the Dorian in Greece .(Deger)
c.) Defect spirals of the Philistine supposed to be the main tribe of the
Sea People (Dothan)
These * defect Ionic columns * are otherwise not proven. They are * Unika * of
the Dorier and Philistine.
Hypothesis: An asteroid - some *km* in diameter - caused the FLOOD, the
Deukaleon tide, the Ragnaroek and Fimbulwinter in the Edda. (A matter of physics)
In the Dark Ages a memory of the catastrophy may have survived for a short time
The ´defect ´sun course´ appeared on the Dorian and Philistine ceramics in Greek
and Palestine. Centuries later *normal double spirals* at the capitals of Ionic
columns.
Defect spirals´ an archaeological key to the Phaeton in the story of Atlantis ?
At least the cause of the European upheavals during the Urnfield time? The reason
of the Dark Ages? If so, how to explain these given ´defect´ figures ? Did the
Dorian really believe that the sun or something like a glowing body circling along
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Phaeton
So far at least more or less a speculation but what about the Phaeton handed down
by Platon ? (360 B.C) (Timaios 22)
* even with you an old tradition survied, after which Helios's son Phaeton -ages ago- destroyed everything by fire, until a lightning killed him. He had tried, it is said, to steer the sun car of his father was however unable to keep it on the prescribed course.The whole looks like a myth and has nevertheless a true background: A changed movement of the heavenly body circling around the earth and a large fire resulting from it and the destruction of everything that is present on earth, by much fire, which occurs after large periods."
Around 1200 b. something happpend linked with
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A calculation
1.) Fire (burning the Libyan)
2.) RAIN (Flood, Deucaleon )
Atlantis,Critias:"In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a
single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock;at the
same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation" (s.P.S.)
3.) DARKNESS (Bible, Egypt,Edda)
4.) Drought
5.) In the North a Long Winter ( Edda,Fimbulwinter)
Likely that these events had a common physical origin. For example: If a FLOOD comes down from the sky, then corresponding amounts of water have to be evaporated at short time before. Conceivable that the needed enormous energy is of cosmic origin, the impact of an Asteroid. (If not cosmic what terrestrial source supposed to be?)
If this considerations are correct, then the Phaeton had to ´heat´parts of the world before crashing on earth´s surface . Maybe a usefull fun to follow the FLOOD with Ekin = M x V 2/ 2
Problem:An asteroid crashing on/in earth in straight line will pass the atmosphere within seconds. Thereby no time to heat greater parts of the atmosphere.No time to evaporate the water masses needed for a FLOOD, no time to burn the Libyan. Looks like the end of science-spaced speculations,(assumed that even gods needs energy to evarporate water) but there is a helpful reference. Plinius (Nat.Hist.II, 92)
"A terrible comet was observed at that time by the population of Ethiopia and Egypt, the Typhoon, the king of its time, who gave the name. It was wound by fiery feature and like a spiral and it was to be looked at very ferocious. It was not so much a star as something that one could perhaps call a fiery ball "
Compareable Pharao Sethos II (1216-1210 b) (Ermann)
"A star appeared and is called Sekhmet at that time. It was a circling star, which
scattered its fire in flames, a fire flame in its storm " (emph. edit)
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After Plinius and Sethos
a circling *fire ball* forming a glowing spiral.
That is to say that the ´asteroid´ had to rotate by itself to throw out glowing ´rocks´ and thereby forming - for a viewer on earth- a spiral.
The effect of rotation could prolong the course of the asteroid. The reason:The asteroid with multiple speed of sound comes into tangential contact with the outer layers of the atmosphere. Thus in front of the asteroid develops a layer of extremely compressed heated air.The asteroid starts to rotate. By rotation the greater part of this ´front-plasma´ becomes led beneath the asteroid and earth surface. Here the plasma * gas pressure* works explosivly against the gravitational forces. Thus time and crash course of the Phaeton becomes prolonged.
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This in mind back to Atlantis and Pheaton
The principal sources of the legend of Atlantis are two of Plato's dialogues,Timaios and Kritias. In the former, Plato describes how Egyptian priests, in conversation with the Athenian law giver Solon (640-559 b.), described Atlantis as an island larger than Asia Minor and Libya combined, and situated just beyond the Pillars of Hercules (the Straits of Gibraltar ) Kritias
The story crosses over into Timaeus, a more historically-minded side of the story in which Plato reiterates the state's efficacy as having 'genuine history', and being within the 'realm of fact'. This Atlantis is portrayed as the antithesis of the 'perfect' Athenian society, and attempts to conquer Athens as it spreads mercilessly eastwards. Plato describes a mighty battle between the two superpowers which the Atlanteans lose, of course. Upon their devastating defeat, the island is beset by a deluge of natural disasters: “The Phaeton is mentioned, in order to explain, why Solon ( 640-559 b..) can´t remember as an Athenian the history of Athen, because in long periods again turning disasters destroys with fire and water humans and memories .At the Nile these disasters can´ t develop because the water comes from the Nile and not from above as sudden loudburst. Therefore climatically unimpaired the Egyptian priests have documents and memories going far back .
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Problem:
After Critias it was Solon who brought a "forgotten" story back to Greece .
Problem : A forgotten story still known in Greece.
* even with you an old tradition survied, after which Helios's son Phaeton -ages ago - destroyed everything by fire, until a lightning killed him. He had tried, it is said, to steer the sun car of his father was however unable to keep it on the pre scribed course.The whole looks like a myth and has nevertheless a true background: A changed movement of a heavenly body circling around the earth and a large fire arose from it destructing of everything that is present on earth, by much fire, which occurs after large periods."
Remarkably, “ even with you an old tradition survied, ”-- Phaeton´s history still alive in Athen´s tells? In its origin not based on the report of Solon ?
Aristoteles 1.8 (350 b ) Let us now explain the origin, cause, and nature of the milky way. And here too let us begin by discussing the statements of others on the subject. (1) Of the so-called Pythagoreans some say that this is the path of one of the stars that fell from heaven at the time of Phaeton's downfall. Others say that the sun used once to move in this circle and that this region was scorched or met with some other affection of this kind, because of the sun and its motion
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Problem :What was still known in Greece about
the Dark Ages and the Dorien past ?
Critias describes the origin, political structure and the moral fall of Atlantis The incomplete report of Atlantis ends with a threat of the Zeus:
"Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, collected all the gods into their most holy habitation, which, being placed in the centre of the world, beholds all created things.And when he had called them together, he spoke
as follows------"
*defect* sun course of the Dorier c.1200 b. Phaeton ?
Assumption: Zeus wanted to punish but not to exterminate the fallen Atlantian, thus the *punished*are still alive being engaged in the Peleponnei war.
The Atlantis report being part of the cultural memory of a meanwhile relatively small Doric-Spartan upperclass losing in strength more and more? A story activated for political reasons in the time of the Peleponnei war between Sparta and Athen ? (431-404 b)
Critias became -supported by the Spartan winner of the war -one of the Tyrants in defeated Athen
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May be look at first sight a little bit beside
Atlantis in its roots a neolithic *Sparta* in the Bronce Age North
In its origin a centre of a megalithic North-Culture ?
Megalithicic roots in Stonehenge and Platon´s Atlantis / Sparta?
Critias. " In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth born primeval men of that country, whose name was Evenor, and he had a wife named Leucippe, and they had an only daughter who was called Cleito. The maiden had already reached womanhood, when her father and mother died; Poseidon fell in love with her and had intercourse with her, ----------He also begat and brought up five pairs of twin male children; and dividing the island of Atlantis into ten portions, he gave to the first-born of the eldest pair his mother's dwelling and the surrounding allotment, which was the largest and best, and made him king over the rest; the others he made princes, and gave them rule over many men, and a large territory."
Stonehenge with its five central *Double stones*
bordered by a ditch separating Stonehenge from the rest of the world ?
Stonehenge in its roots symbolizing the primeval hill ?
End of Stonehenge during the urnfieled time ? (1300-750 b )
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primeval hills`?
Step Pyramid Djoser 2700 b Dolmen Sylt, Denghoog 2600-2200 b
with fluted columns
Marathon 490 b Thracian c.500 b (Bulgaria)
European mounds appear in Greece at the time of ´Homer´ 800 b. Odyssee 11/70 , Ilias 23/250, but unknown in Mycenae. (Pyramids are symbols of the primeval hill) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phaeton causing * Rain and the Flood*.
Critias.112a " In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock;"
Some drill cores east of Tiryns ( Peleponnes, Mycenae) showed, simple several meters thick loamy sediments.--------Sediments with no stratification.,which suggested that only one catastrophic flood event formed the uniform loamy deposits.--------------In this up to five meter thick unstratified layers ceramic(s) pieces of broken glass were found..“
(End of the palace period (SHIIIB2), Troia VIIB around 1200 v.Chr.) Zangger, E. Atlantis 1992, S.119)
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Malitz, J. http://www.gnomon.ku-eichstaett.de/LAG/sokrates.html
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